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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s Next For Vignette?</title>
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		<title>By: ECM Software</title>
		<link>http://bigmenoncontent.com/2008/07/29/whats-next-for-vignette/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ECM Software]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thinking of doing is having wake up as a person who is already being held prisoner by the &quot;cult&quot; they are headed to. The prisoner
wakes with little or no recollection of who they are or how they got there (hence no need for back story), but attempts to sneak out of his cell
(which someone has left a way out of), and ultimately can meet up with the PCs later, or simply be recaptured.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking of doing is having wake up as a person who is already being held prisoner by the &#8220;cult&#8221; they are headed to. The prisoner<br />
wakes with little or no recollection of who they are or how they got there (hence no need for back story), but attempts to sneak out of his cell<br />
(which someone has left a way out of), and ultimately can meet up with the PCs later, or simply be recaptured.</p>
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		<title>By: worthyl</title>
		<link>http://bigmenoncontent.com/2008/07/29/whats-next-for-vignette/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[worthyl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They have a beautiful office building, not too far from downtown, that probably can be sub-let for some excellent money. 

I just think that they are between a rock and a hard place.  Any company with the money to buy their product will likely take the less risky approach to go with one of the big 4.  Any company with whom money is an issue is probably going to go Open Source or continue with some home-grown system of some sort.   If I were Vignette, I would be looking very hard to be bought out or buy my way into another related market (with what cash?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a beautiful office building, not too far from downtown, that probably can be sub-let for some excellent money. </p>
<p>I just think that they are between a rock and a hard place.  Any company with the money to buy their product will likely take the less risky approach to go with one of the big 4.  Any company with whom money is an issue is probably going to go Open Source or continue with some home-grown system of some sort.   If I were Vignette, I would be looking very hard to be bought out or buy my way into another related market (with what cash?).</p>
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		<title>By: msillanp</title>
		<link>http://bigmenoncontent.com/2008/07/29/whats-next-for-vignette/#comment-132</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points but what we technologist often forget is the difficulty of getting the right people.  One of Hyland’s deficiencies is the lack of an international presence.  Vignette already has this organization.  The acquisition of this distribution channel, in addition to the technology, makes it a great deal.  

Yes, they have got themselves to a solid situation but to catch up with any of the next level of vendors they need to do major things fast.  I think with the right strategy Hyland could knock Open Text out of fourth position.  If nothing else I’m not sure why Hyland hasn’t passed Interwoven and Vignette.

And Vignette’s technology is being replaced by “open source” as much as the next guy.  There are no real numbers from any of the open source vendors as to how many replacement deals are happening.  I’ll believe it when someone starts sharing those numbers.  For now it’s great marketing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points but what we technologist often forget is the difficulty of getting the right people.  One of Hyland’s deficiencies is the lack of an international presence.  Vignette already has this organization.  The acquisition of this distribution channel, in addition to the technology, makes it a great deal.  </p>
<p>Yes, they have got themselves to a solid situation but to catch up with any of the next level of vendors they need to do major things fast.  I think with the right strategy Hyland could knock Open Text out of fourth position.  If nothing else I’m not sure why Hyland hasn’t passed Interwoven and Vignette.</p>
<p>And Vignette’s technology is being replaced by “open source” as much as the next guy.  There are no real numbers from any of the open source vendors as to how many replacement deals are happening.  I’ll believe it when someone starts sharing those numbers.  For now it’s great marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Dallas</title>
		<link>http://bigmenoncontent.com/2008/07/29/whats-next-for-vignette/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Dallas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I&#039;m at Hyland, buying into the WCM market this way would be like spending $100 million to be an extra in the last scene of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Solyent Green&lt;/a&gt;.(you know it&#039;s people - right?)  As a private company, they have done quite well building SMB and small govt document solutions that are much more valuable. They don&#039;t need WCM to grow. 

Assuming they need it, why take on the baggage when there are plenty of smaller fish with better products to acquire. I don&#039;t know that I would spend that kind of money to be the guy everybody is replacing with open source tools that are really better in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m at Hyland, buying into the WCM market this way would be like spending $100 million to be an extra in the last scene of <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/" rel="nofollow">Solyent Green</a>.(you know it&#8217;s people &#8211; right?)  As a private company, they have done quite well building SMB and small govt document solutions that are much more valuable. They don&#8217;t need WCM to grow. </p>
<p>Assuming they need it, why take on the baggage when there are plenty of smaller fish with better products to acquire. I don&#8217;t know that I would spend that kind of money to be the guy everybody is replacing with open source tools that are really better in the first place.</p>
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